How to Reach Financial Freedom Faster with “Slow and Steady” Investing

Ashley:
She had the flips, the followers, and the monetary freedom. However behind closed doorways, she was unraveling. Immediately’s visitor constructed a seven determine actual property enterprise that almost misplaced herself inside it.

Tony:
And in immediately’s episode, our visitor, lake adha shares how she traded burnout for steadiness and why her new e book Return on Actual Property is perhaps the blueprint you want.

Ashley:
Properly, clearly Tony can’t match my drama, however that is the Actual Property Ricky podcast. And I’m Ashley Kehr,

Tony:
And I’m Tony J Robinson with no drama in my title. However let’s give a giant heat welcome to Laika. Thanks for becoming a member of us immediately.

Leka:
Hello guys. It’s at all times such a pleasure to speak to you each as a result of we stroll away and I’m like, I discovered a lot from you too. So thanks for bringing it each episode for therefore a few years.

Ashley:
Actually respect it. We at all times love having you on the podcast, and immediately we’re having you on to speak about your new e book. It’s referred to as Return on Actual Property, so thanks a lot for becoming a member of us.

Leka:
Thanks for having me. This e book has been such a labor of affection, however I’ve written it and I’m performed with it and I’m so excited to simply convey it out into the world and have everybody

Ashley:
Else learn it. Can you’re taking us again to the height of your hustle period? What did these days appear like for

Leka:
You? Actually, these had been some extraordinarily, now wanting again, extraordinarily exhausting difficult days as a result of I’d get up after which I’d simply have to begin placing out fires after which my day continued that means till I went to mattress. And so there was no rhyme, no cause, no calendar. It was identical to go, go, go and be dragged in several instructions, not have a transparent imaginative and prescient or objective. And so it was simply plenty of helter skelter, however I really feel like that’s what most entrepreneurs undergo as a result of there’s no roadmap, there’s no boss, there’s no group telling you that is how we’re going to do that, or that is the path one thing has to go in. You’re carrying all these hats and simply attempting to determine it out. And on condition that nobody’s been in your sneakers, in that location, in that deal, in that scenario, it’s you that should determine it out. You that should sort of create that pathway one step at a time. And so it was plenty of figuring it out.

Tony:
How did you measure success at the moment?

Leka:
By the variety of offers that I purchased, not by how they did or carried out financially, how there have been no KPIs simply based mostly on what number of offers am I shopping for and that’s going to mainly catapult me to success. That was the mindset

Ashley:
Throughout this time interval, you even have a household. Perhaps give us just a little perception as to what it was like elevating a household, being a mother, and in addition hustling.

Leka:
Again then I solely had one son and I used to be really pregnant with my second. So it was difficult as a result of the entire cause I give up my company job was to go and be a mother and simply be extra versatile, have extra time for the household. And so once I began working in actual property and I began shopping for all these offers, I simply had no time. So I did the alternative of what I had first got down to do. And in addition at the moment, there was a yr, this was 2015, I purchased 11 offers in 11 elements of the town and none of them had been shut to one another. And I used to be like eight months pregnant, simply driving from one home to the following one contractor messed as much as the following. I don’t ever wish to return there and I don’t need anybody else to return there.

Tony:
I feel there’s one thing to be mentioned as a result of I really feel like simply our tradition actually promotes this concept of hustling. And whereas I feel there’s positively some validity in the concept it’s important to hustle, it’s important to work exhausting, that could be a requirement for being profitable. I feel the place plenty of people battle, myself included, is how do you strike that steadiness or possibly draw that line the place the hustle turns into counterproductive, proper? Typically you may hustle a lot that you simply’re simply hustling in one million totally different instructions, however making little or no progress. So you’re feeling extremely busy, you’re feeling extremely overwhelmed, however you’re not making plenty of progress. Was there a second for you, Laika, the place you possibly realized that you simply had gotten to that time?

Leka:
Yeah, I actually really imagine that the hustle must be there. Nobody particular person can set out and say, I’m going to do X, Y, and Z, after which make all of the revenue that they got down to make not encounter any issues or must take care of hurdles alongside the way in which. So if you happen to don’t put in that hustle and have that have on all of the issues that may really go fallacious, you don’t know the way to make that proper for years to return. So I feel individuals must put in that hustle, study for themselves, what works for them, what doesn’t work for them, and the way they take care of adversity when it exhibits up. As a result of I began with a category of 200 traders right here in Seattle and out of that class, two of us nonetheless flip properties 11 years later. And so what occurred to the opposite 1 99 individuals?
There’s a lot to be mentioned for, okay, I’m going to hustle, I’m going to come across all these issues, however then I’m going to indicate up and determine them out, after which once I transfer ahead, I’m going to look again and say how to not do one thing or what did I do fallacious that I’m by no means going to do once more? And so for me, I feel again once I was shopping for all these offers and I had 11 duds out of 11 offers, you guys, I’m not joking, I most likely made 100 Ok revenue complete. I walked away from that yr and I mentioned, okay, how can I fully change my concept, my technique, myself, to by no means to try this once more? And since then I’ve made 100 Ok revenue on every deal on the minimal. And I feel simply having that adversity and studying from it was what helped me develop.

Ashley:
So what had been a number of the issues that while you had that realization that you simply began to implement, so if somebody’s listening and possibly it’s not even in actual property, simply even at their job or one thing the place they’re feeling that burnout, they’re feeling like they’re not succeeding, what are a number of the first steps you took to alter your life and alter that trajectory you had been on?

Leka:
I like that query, Ashley. I feel most individuals really feel like they must be good at all the pieces. And early on I noticed that I wasn’t good at door knocking and I wasn’t good at junk mail advertising to sellers, and so I made a decision to simply get rid of that from my enterprise. I mentioned, okay, I’m actually good at having conversations and networking with like-minded individuals, and in order that’s what I’m going to give attention to subsequent. Even deal underwriting, it was going to take me plenty of underwriting to get to the purpose the place I might underwrite offers extra realistically, as a result of what I used to be doing at first was simply constructing out these castles within the air. Oh, rates of interest are going to be decrease at that time. Oh, my contractor goes to return in at a decrease finances than what’s advisable by an actual property dealer.
Oh, I’m going to have all these patrons simply dying to purchase my property. And so I feel simply taking a extra reasonable method and nearly underwriting in a really typical method actually really helped me. However that doesn’t imply that it’s important to go the opposite means and say, okay, I’m not ever going to earn a living on this deal as a result of then you definately’re simply going to let go of plenty of actually good offers. So it was discovering that good steadiness, discovering the precise group, that is so vital and it doesn’t occur proper off the bat, and if it does, you’re actually fortunate and maintain onto your group. However I needed to undergo 20 totally different contractors to really discover one group that works for me and now they’ve caught with me for eight years. And in order that took a great three years to construct up. And so simply specializing in totally different features after which realizing your power and taking part in to your strengths after which outsourcing or hiring out all the pieces else helped me decrease what number of totally different instructions I used to be being pulled in, but additionally give attention to what I used to be actually good at.

Tony:
And I respect you sharing that as a result of I really feel that plenty of rookies do really feel that they must be specialists in all the pieces. And I’ve confirmed on the podcast earlier than that I’m not a DIY man. I don’t change my very own flooring, I don’t set up something. We’ll construct the furnishings, we’ll put all that

Leka:
Stuff

Ashley:
In. You’re too fairly for that, Tony. That’s proper. There’s really this one time after we had been in Colorado collectively, we went to our pal’s work web site and Sarah made this reel the place it was just like the woman’s like, that’s your man. I feel it was like Dr. Phil or one thing, and it’s like Dr. Phil’s voice, and he’s like, that’s your man. And he or she’s like, yep. And it was me as Dr. Phil pointing at Tony simply sitting there and there’s our pal there really engaged on the ground. It’s nonetheless doing these items.

Tony:
You additionally must go deep into the archives and discover that one. However it’s there. My spouse publicly shaming me. However I share that as a result of for some time I felt like I wasn’t a adequate actual property investor as a result of I didn’t DIY, proper? As a result of I didn’t understand how to try this. Ignoring the truth that I used to be good at different elements of the enterprise. I used to be good at analyzing, I used to be good at managing initiatives, I used to be good at elevating capital, I used to be good at this and that. However as a result of I used to be lacking this one piece, I nearly questioned, am I actually an actual property investor if I’m not doing all of it? So for all the rookies which are listening from what lake is sharing it’s that it’s okay so that you can concentrate on sure elements so long as you complement these different areas with different specialists who can do it higher than you may. I respect you sharing that Laika, however I wish to return since you talked in regards to the cash and 11 offers you made 100 okay, that’s like 10 grand just a little over per deal,

Leka:
And these are million greenback offers, by the way in which.

Tony:
And even simply the chance related to that, proper? Think about the chance of taking down nearly a seven determine flip to make $10,000. That’s quite a bit for little, however I assume you talked about that even while you began making more cash, you had been nonetheless feeling behind. So why weren’t you feeling like successful? At the same time as cash began to extend?

Leka:
I did really feel like I used to be nonetheless doing just a little with quite a bit. And so until I really whittled it right down to doing quite a bit with just a little, I really feel like I didn’t really feel prefer it was successful as a result of what occurred additionally was I bought actually good at flipping properties. So then I used to be like, I like studying curves, so let me go study to subdivide quite a bit or let me go study to construct new development or let me go study to be an actual property dealer. And so then you definately get again in that cycle of getting to study, construct a group, discover what you’re good at, discover what you’re not good at, after which edit after which repurpose after which transfer ahead. So I simply really feel prefer it takes some time to simply discover your rhythm, discover what you’re good at, after which proceed to try this for eternity.
However having mentioned that, I can let you know this, I purchased a deal simply final yr that’s 10 years in that I’d’ve by no means purchased earlier than. And I’m like, why did I do this? I went towards my judgment, and that deal has simply been so painful, and the one cause that I’m in a position to get it to the end line is due to the community and the web price and the group that I’ve immediately. But when it was a rookie that had performed that deal, they might’ve been in a scorching mess proper now. So we nonetheless make these errors as a result of I nonetheless take dangers and that’s simply who I’m. I like taking dangers and I like making one thing out of nothing, however not less than I’m cushioned. So if you happen to don’t have that cushion, you’re simply beginning out

Ashley:
Be extra cautious. So it wasn’t one explicit venture, what Leica calls the Flip that dealer, however that all the pieces lastly cracked at this level. So we’ll get into what occurred proper after Phrase from immediately’s present sponsor. So Leika has painted the image for us of the nonstop hustle, however Leika, in your e book, you level out one flip that pushed you over the sting and the way this was really the turning level for you. So inform us about that flip and what made this one totally different and even insufferable.

Leka:
Okay. So I’d say going again to at this level, I had flipped nearly 40 properties, so this was flip quantity 39, and you’ll assume by the point I’ve performed 39 flips, I do know a factor or two about shopping for the precise deal or in the precise neighborhood. And that’s what I assumed I did. I purchased a home in probably the most premium neighborhoods in Seattle round Seattle referred to as Kirkland, and there was this model new hotshot out of doors mall that was arising down the road from the place this home was, but it surely was a 900 sq. foot house. There have been two bedrooms upstairs and so they had been each tiny the place the roof line was actually not very excessive. After which we purchased it, and there was an entire factor with my metropolis the place there was an Amazon head tax that went into place, after which individuals simply stopped shopping for properties.
A, they stopped shopping for properties. After which B, we bought caught with a extremely the allowing after which the inspections on this home. It was a 900 sq. foot home and we did 39 inspections. The inspector was simply on our case. It was terrible. He saved making us redo work the place we had been already grandfathered in as a result of we purchased the home that means. And so it was simply actually a tricky fruits of issues. After which with the truth that individuals simply stopped shopping for offers, I ended up dropping 65 grand on this 900 sq. foot house. And at that time I used to be like, oh my God, why me? Proper? Everybody feels that means. Why am I shopping for the unhealthy offers? It’s popping out of it. I noticed that I had sort of leveraged my portfolio in a means the place I used to be doing one dangerous deal for each three actually good offers, like house run offers.
And so it was okay to make a loss as a result of that’s the price of doing enterprise. However once more, I’m going to say this, if you happen to’re simply doing that one dangerous deal or if you happen to’re simply banking on that one deal to get you out of or to make you all the cash it’s essential make within the yr, quite a bit might go fallacious as a result of a lot hinges on that one deal. And so I’d say when you find yourself underwriting offers over-leverage, do two or three. In the event you assume you may afford one million greenback deal, do two or three smaller offers like three, 400 okay offers, even when it’s important to go exterior the town or no matter. However particularly while you’re beginning out and also you don’t have all the opposite items discovered, it’s so vital to handle your enterprise. And though that deal didn’t break me, it made me query why I used to be doing this.

Tony:
And only one observe as much as that, you say it made you query why you had been doing this. How did you give you a solution to that? As a result of I feel all of us reached that time as actual property traders. We had been like, rattling, is that this actually what I signed up for? So what was your internal dialogue popping out of that deal?

Leka:
In order that evening, I’m not joking. That evening I used to be having dinner and we had ordered Chinese language takeout and I bought a fortune cookie. I hate fortune cookies, however I opened this. I felt like consuming one thing candy, and so I opened this fortune cookie and it mentioned, you are supposed to be in actual property. Shut up. Cease it. I’m not even joking. In the event you go down on my Instagram someplace in 2017, I posted this photograph of my fortune cookie and I used to be like, what? I nonetheless really feel like scorching flashes serious about it like what on the planet? It was an indication from God saying, it’s important to be doing what you’re doing as a result of sooner or later you’re going to recover from the hurdle, proper?

Ashley:
Okay, me and Tony are going to be collectively tomorrow evening, Tony, we’re ordering Chinese language meals and we’re going to open these fortune cookies and see what they are saying.

Tony:
That should’ve been just like the native realtor who’s attempting to advertise their enterprise by the Fortune cookies

Ashley:
Was on the again and the opposite aspect.

Tony:
That’s a loopy one.

Ashley:
That’s really an amazing advertising concept

Tony:
Contained in the Fortune cookies, proper? Yeah.

Leka:
I ought to get like, oh my gosh, I’m itemizing my flip subsequent week. I ought to simply take the tackle and put in each fortune cookie attainable and be like, it’s essential go purchase this

Ashley:
Home. You must go purchase this home or simply supply them if you happen to do an open home. So when individuals crack it, be like the place you might be is the place you had been meant to be or one thing, in a roundabout way saying by this home, however that’s unimaginable. Regardless of the road quantity is, if it’s like 3 8 2 or no matter, be like 3 8, 2 is your fortunate quantity,

Tony:
So that you get this signal from the Universe Lake that you must proceed to do that. However I assume what did that second, what did that deal train you about id as an actual property investor and what you wished out of it?

Leka:
I feel I had completed fairly a bit by then. I had already performed 39 offers and I used to be like, okay, if I can simply proceed to go ahead and never look again and as a substitute simply be constructive about this, don’t be doom and gloom and simply take into consideration all the great issues that may come out of this and my expertise to date, then it doesn’t matter if one deal is a dud, I can nonetheless proceed to do that. And now wanting again, I’ve performed 60 plus offers after that. I’ve bought hundreds of thousands of just about 100 million {dollars} of actual property since that yr, and I’ve been on a TV present, I simply launched the e book. All these issues couldn’t have been attainable if I had give up again then.

Ashley:
I feel that I positively have these moments too the place I’m calling house and saying, checklist all of it. We’re promoting all of it. I’m performed. I simply assume like, oh God, wouldn’t that be so good? Simply promoting all. However then I feel of the particular work that it’s important to really undergo to promote a home, coordinate with the tenants, get it listed on the market, take care of the showings, all of that, and it’s like, nevermind, I’ll simply maintain doing what I’m doing. I’m a fairly lazy investor, however lake alongside this fashion, you probably did sort point out a few of your mindset shifts that got here in. So that you talked about possibly what had been these modifications while you had that mindset shift to actually be your return to intention

Leka:
As an investor, at the same time as an entrepreneur, I feel it’s important to always discuss your self off the ledge, however you additionally must always discuss your self to simply leap off the ledge after which open your parachute on the way in which down. So it’s been like I discuss to myself on a regular basis, I’m like, okay, that is advantageous. This went fallacious, however that is what I did to beat that. The opposite mindset I’d say is so vital is that it’s important to crush all obstacles and simply maintain shifting ahead. It must be sooner or later at a time. Sure, immediately’s a foul day. I’ve to take care of all of these things that’s occurring, however tomorrow is a brand new day. And so the extra hurdles you may remedy every day, you’re going to get to that vibrant solar. If you consider it, the final three years from 22 to 25 has been the worst since I began on this enterprise.
Rates of interest have been excessive, patrons have vanished. So any home you set in the marketplace, it’s important to checklist proper underneath the precise promoting worth that you really want. You wish to be tremendous conservative in your rehabs. You’ll be able to’t go and shine up the home like I usually do and spend 150 Ok over my rehab finances. All the things must be so measured and so good, after which discover the precise sellers to work with, discover the precise patrons to work with, discover purchase the precise offers. There’s a lot that has gone on the final three years that has sort of switched once more how I run my enterprise. And so that you simply must always, it’s important to be versatile. Don’t be over leveraged. Ensure you have sufficient capital or waste, increase that capital after which construct a group. I can not even insist extra

Tony:
Like our, I respect you sharing that. And we’re really bringing on James and Thatin, two of the most likely most skilled actual property traders that I do know to particularly discuss investing by the ups and downs within the totally different cycles as a result of they’ve seen a lot of their expertise. However I feel what you simply mentioned hit the final couple of years have been a number of the hardest in actual property ever. The individuals who make it by this shall be so significantly better on the opposite aspect, and the individuals who begin on this are going to be, I feel, even higher than the people who find themselves round within the years previous to. It’s nearly take into consideration the individuals who grew up in the course of the Nice Despair, that technology had a degree of economic maturity and identical to, Hey, we’re going to avoid wasting all the pieces that we are able to as a result of we’ve seen how unhealthy it’s that the following generations didn’t have to fret about.
So I feel the traders going by immediately, they’ll be higher for it if they’ll make it by, and I respect you sharing that, and I feel that’s why it’s so vital. And we joked earlier about immediately’s episode not being too detrimental, however I really feel that there’s worth in sharing the hurdles and the obstacles as a result of while you go to social media and also you’re on TikTok, Instagram, wherever you decide your poison, plenty of it’s simply the great things, and it at all times makes it look like all the pieces is ideal. And I feel that may make it tough for individuals who wish to get began as a result of they’re like, properly, man, I don’t have all of it discovered the way in which that Tony and Laika and Ashley do. I can’t do it the identical means that they’ll. However after we share these moments, I feel it humanizes the journey of being an actual property investor. And it exhibits that even the three of us, with no matter degree of success that we’ve had, we’re nonetheless it out for ourselves as properly.

Ashley:
That’s why Tony and I’ll do our objective setting for the yr or no matter, and yearly, I do know after we do the top of the yr, the place did you find yourself? My factor is totally totally different than what I set my objective on as a result of, and it isn’t shiny object syndrome, it’s that I’m so conservative with my investing so conservative and I’ve not scaled or grown as a lot as different traders that I do know as a result of I’m so threat antagonistic and so conservative. And for a very long time that was very exhausting for me. As I’m not rising and scaling sufficient, I must be doing extra. I must be doing extra. However I additionally haven’t had a horrible, horrible deal both. So there are advantages to not scaling and rising or attempting to do an excessive amount of without delay. And even if you happen to don’t get to that time of all these models, all these offers, there’s nonetheless, I wish to say a profit to constructing a sluggish and regular portfolio. And it took me a extremely very long time to comprehend that’s that you simply don’t at all times must be the quickest. You don’t at all times must do essentially the most offers or have essentially the most properties. You will be profitable. And I had the identical feeling as you. I’m doing all the pieces. I’m creating wealth, however I don’t really feel like I’m profitable but. And it’s important to actually outline inside your self what you assume success means to you to actually determine that out.

Tony:
So how does Lake function immediately and what’s like after you cease grinding all of it out? So we’ll discuss Peace, revenue and Laker’s, new blueprint for constructing a enterprise with Eased proper after a fast break. Alright, so that you’ve shared how burnout compelled you to redefine all the pieces, however now let’s step into immediately. So how do you run your flipping enterprise in a different way immediately than you probably did on Flip 39 or these different earlier offers that had been possibly supplying you with some points?

Leka:
Yeah, I feel immediately I simply wish to give attention to what brings me pleasure. And so if it’s doing a flip and that brings me pleasure, then that’s what I wish to do. If it’s working with a sure investor and so they convey me pleasure and so they encourage me to be a greater dealer or higher investor, then that’s what I wish to do. I don’t wish to do one thing. I’m not loopy in regards to the studying curves anymore. I’ve performed it. I’ve been there, I’ve seen all of it. So I’m like, okay. Even once I raised capital earlier than I used to be like, oh my gosh, I simply want cash for this deal. Immediately I’m extra intentional about, I don’t wish to work with that investor, so I’m not going to lift cash there, or I really actually like this one particular person and I wish to see them develop, and in order that’s whose cash I’m going to take.
So it’s extra of a holistic method additionally to each of your factors. I feel lots of people have, they throw a lot weight on what different persons are doing on social media, and I’ve by no means been a fan of simply run with the plenty, do what everyone else is doing. So my complete factor has at all times been very measured. And since you introduced up James, Dana, I’ll let you know this, James, I’m very fortunate in the identical market as James and Thatch and large, huge traders. And so we do exactly have good hallway conversations about work, about life, about enterprise. And one factor that James and I at all times discuss is your social media, sure, will drive you a following, but it surely’s not going to drive you to cash. The cash you make, the monetary freedom you may get is by the work you set in. So you are able to do all these enjoyable issues you may go and communicate on at meetups and you’ll go attend conferences, you may take heed to podcasts and skim books, however in the end it’s important to take motion.
And now we have plenty of buddies which are doing all these different issues however not likely taking a lot motion, which implies that they’re not financially, they’re nonetheless struggling. And so for us, I feel it’s at all times been about, okay, now we have to place within the work. So go underwrite the offers, nonetheless study in regards to the market, go discover these offers, purchase from superb wholesalers that simply know the way to get the precise properties underneath contract after which run your crews so that you simply’re not burning them out and so they have your again. After which in the end all of that’s what results in a paycheck. So simply think about all of the issues it’s important to undergo to get a paycheck. So whereas the social media is nice for elevating capital and all of that, I feel that’ll all come as a byproduct to the precise expertise that

Ashley:
You will have. So how has your relationship with cash modified since actually leaving the hustle? How are you measuring wealth now? Is it by way of freedom or is it nonetheless the revenue?

Leka:
Yeah, I imply, I feel it’s the time freedom. I simply got here again from a 60 day journey around the globe and I used to be ready to try this as a result of I’ve good programs in place. I arrange my enterprise in a means that I can work from wherever. Whereas I used to be gone, I used to be in a position to promote 4 properties to 2 of my traders, get one in every of my patrons into their eternally house, promote two of my flips, and I can do this due to all my programs which are in place on the identical time. Don’t get me fallacious, you do want cash. Cash is what strikes the world and also you want cash. I would like cash to place my children to personal college. I would like cash to pay all my mortgages that my tenants are usually not paying proper now. So that you do want the capital, however I really feel like that must be a byproduct of you doing all the pieces you like earlier than after which while you get so dependent and so over-leveraged that it’s important to make a paycheck, that’s while you begin doing the fallacious issues. Like simply elevating capital for the sake of elevating capital, not likely having an exit to the way you’re going to pay your lenders again or not with the ability to pay your month-to-month debt, otherwise you simply don’t wish to be in that place the place you may’t dig your self out

Ashley:
Of it. The extra determined you might be, the extra depressing you can be. That would be the consequence is as a result of you’ll accomplice with anyone. You’ll take anyone’s cash, you’ll do any job, and also you’ll be extra depressing since you aren’t aligning your self with what issues. And your complete level of with the ability to select who you accomplice with that’s a part of your wealth creation. And at first you could have to be determined as to who you accomplice with and totally different jobs you’re taking and stuff. It is probably not the best scenario, but when these are issues to get you began and in that hustle interval, however at all times be intentional of Lakers focus as to that’s not the top objective is to simply work exhausting to create the life you need so that you will be intentional about who you’re employed with and what you do, and it’ll drastically change your life greater than the cash will that you simply’ll be capable of make these choices and also you’ll be accountable for having these choices.

Tony:
Earlier than we wrap issues up right here, we talked about this just a little bit on the prime of the episode, however what made you’re feeling that now was the precise time to put in writing your e book Return on Actual Property?

Leka:
I feel it was simply the place I used to be in. I felt like I had sufficient of the expertise, I had seen sufficient of the investing cycle to have the ability to not simply discuss my experiences as a result of the e book, that is what I like in regards to the e book is that it’s stuffed with tales, like actual life tales of issues that occurred to me that really are unbelievable. So it was simply very nice to put in writing about these, but additionally marrying that with really technical methods and steps you may take to perform one thing. It actually took a extremely very long time to simply arrange the way in which that I wished the e book to really feel, give you all of the totally different chapters I wished to the touch on. In order that took a very long time. After which to really execute on the writing, I used to be simply so excited that I used to be in a position to do it. It took a very long time. It was like a yr in writing and it was exhausting, however I simply actually get pleasure from the way in which that the e book turned out and I actually hope that it helps lots of people as a result of if I can do it, I swear anybody else can do it. In order that’s what I wished to indicate by the e book is go get ’em.

Ashley:
Properly, we had been actually actually hoping that your reply could be that you simply opened a fortune cookie and it mentioned to put in writing a e book, however that’s an amazing reply. Additionally has the reasoning. However sure, everybody ought to positively try Lekas e book. The place can they discover it? Leika, go to the BiggerPockets retailer

Leka:
Proper now and preorder your e book. You can too go on Amazon. In the event you do go on Amazon, please don’t overlook to depart me a evaluation. The one means you may is if you happen to purchase a e book by Amazon. So these are your two channels to go purchase a e book. And in case you are in Seattle, come to my launch. It’s on September 18th,

Ashley:
Tony, I imagine you’ve got a reduction code for the e book if anybody buys it immediately by the BiggerPockets bookstore. What’s it?

Tony:
Properly, Ashley, I’m so glad you requested as a result of I positively do have a code for the viewers. So if you happen to use Code Ashley Tin or Tony Tin, simply decide whichever host you want extra. You should use that code, however you’ll get 10% off the e book.

Ashley:
Properly, thanks a lot for becoming a member of us. The place else can individuals attain out to you?

Leka:
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Ashley:
Dta. Okay, nice. Thanks a lot. I’m Ashley. He’s Tony. And we’ll see you guys on the following episode of Actual Property Rookie.